Thursday, December 17, 2015

Thoughts on "same god" - interreligious

REFLECTIONS ON "SAME" GOD
Thoughts generated by a challenge to this resolution
To Encourage Words as Bridges, not Walls
Resolution of Northern Illinois Conference United Methodist Church
June 2006
Whereas, words can be thoughtless, engendering alienation; or compassionate encouraging reconciliation.
Whereas, civil discourse and problem solving has been swamped by intolerant speech, or inflammatory metaphors of "clash, war, crusade, jihad," and parochial narratives of events.
Whereas, since 9/11 a climate of anxiety about world events and relations between religions has promoted a fight or flight mentality - circling the wagons against "them."
Whereas, even Robert Frost's poem "Mending Wall" gets misread as if it advocates that "good walls make good neighbors," instead of its real message that "Something there is that doesn't love a wall."
Whereas, bridges are anchored in the identity of each bank, but recognize the common purpose of common good and truth in crossing the separation.
Whereas, we discover, in the crossing, that the same God is worshipped on both sides of the bridge.
Therefore, be it resolved
That Northern Illinois Conference Churches will be conscious of the overt and covert messages in their communities; constantly challenging alienating words, and moreover speaking the healing words.
Be it further resolved
That Northern Illinois Conference churches are encouraged to use the resources of bridge-building dialogue provided by the General Commission on Christian Unity and Interreligious Concerns such as Building New Bridges in Hope (on Christian Jewish relations) and Our Muslim Neighbors available on the NIC-CCUIC web site http://www.gbgm-umc.org/interrelig/
Commission on Christian Unity and Interreligious Concerns
Catiana McKay - chairperson June 10, 2006

SAME
How do I respond to a challenge to the above resolution: "No we do not worship the same God?"
First off, this final "whereas" is the central premise in the resolution. Some have suggested, pragmatically to get the "be it resolved" why not compromise on this? Or one could imagine a motion to refer it back to the Commission on Christian Unity and Interreligious Concerns for a more winnable wording. I contend that the issue raised here is so central that if there is any referral, the prophetic thing would be to refer it to the churches where the people need a solid encounter with the issues of Biblical interpretation, and the work of the Holy Spirit, viz. a viz. the diverse religions with whom we are global and local neighbors.
Next, let me say I too struggle with reservations about applying the word "same" to the God concept and religious practice that seems unlike the God that was incarnate in Jesus Christ., and the ideal of discipleship God calls us to in the mission of reconciliation and peace.
A god of jihad or crusade is equally an affront to a God of mercy, and a command to love one's enemies. A Joshua obeying an herem against a city and destroying everyone does not fit with "I tell you, love your enemies," nor do Muslim suicide bombers fit with the Qur'an statement that killing an innocent is the same as killing the world. When one thinks of Old Testament stories of God stopping the sun so more enemies could be killed by Joshua, it is no wonder that the heretic Marcion (144 C.E..) said get rid of the Old Testament – it is not the "same" God. But that was declared a heresy. http://www.christianorigins.com/marcion.html. The picture of Jephthah (Judges 11) killing his daughter because of a vow to YHWH to kill the first person through the door trumped his love of his daughter is just too similar to the status of women doing sati, or subject to "honor" killings.
And maybe it is a heresy too, when within the United Methodist Church, there is a spirit of schism in 2006, that violates koinonia, because contentious caucuses left and right say, "I can’t believe THEY belong to the SAME church.
But while I commiserate with those disturbed by giving credence and honor to a "same" God that violates the higher values of what God should be like, it seems to me that now is the time for those who believe in one God to help one another claim the highest values of faith in each other’s religion. By saying "same" we declare as monotheists that the Spirit of God that we know in Christ, has been experienced in some way among people all across the earth.
The view that religions channel a basic human response to the One God, that calls upon the higher moral values, is a faith and hope of many people, including the President of the United States. George Bush, Nov. 20, 2003, when questioned whether the Muslims worship the same Almighty, said "I believe we worship the same God." This is an important statement to enhance the position of those who do not want their religion hijacked to be a weapon of separation and hatred.
There is one philosophical stumbling block to using the word "same," which may also behind the reluctance of some to use it describing God. The philosopher Heraclitus would be the extreme, saying "all is in flux, you can never step into the SAME stream twice. On that slippery slope common sense language disappears along with the word "is" and "same" because the river of experience has moved on. One person’s "Experience" (part of Wesley’s quadrilateral) of God would always be different from any other person’s experience. So there seems to be a human agreement that language is metaphorical. We agree to the fact that a metaphor is always limited, in the sense that while parts of a metaphor apply to likeness, other parts push the envelope too much. So there is always a like and an unlike to a metaphor. We agree that we can even use the word "same" knowing its inherent limitation within any radical empiricism.. But we agree that we can talk about, and discern within community the nuances, connotations, differentia, essential parts, of the experiences that are on both sides of the metaphor.
This is why the resolution above has whereases that are blatantly metaphors. The step of saying, "same," and to resolve to use language carefully and sensitively, grows out of the image of a bridge anchored on two banks which represent the experiential world, including perceived revelation. It is in the process of going over the bridge, experiencing each others banks of experience, that one finds not only the "unlike" but the "likeness;" one finds that the One God Holy Spirit was on the banks, and on the bridge itself.
The bridge crossing must be done time and time again and on many bridges, because neither bank (the various religions and movements and sects within them) is monolithic nor unchangeable. The choice to cross is not an easy task either. While applying math logic of objects to God may seem easy (i.e. things = to the same thing are = to each other, therefore GOD = YHWH = ALLAH = SAME), emotionally it means trusting analogical imagination.
Trust is not easy in the midst of varied views and hermeneutical traditions in relation to our holy books. For United Methodists saying the "same" means taking a risk to be ahead of the curve of cultural history. Such a stance amid the bridge-crossing will open up important dialogue concerning how God / Spirit has moved/is moving in the world, and how we unpack that movement in scripture, experience, tradition and reason. Like Pentecost, we are called into God’s mission to risk saying "same" as a proleptic word for all to hear in their own language.
Ed Hiestand
In 2004 Christian Century had a series on "Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

Edgar Hiestand